[MADIE-92] Can a field value be made to have a duration different from the data element? Created: 06/29/15  Updated: 05/08/18  Resolved: 10/16/15

Status: Closed
Project: MADiE Issue Tracker
Component/s: Measure Calculation
Affects Version/s: None
Fix Version/s: None

Type: Question Priority: Major
Reporter: Desmond Kearsley (Inactive) Assignee: Unassigned
Resolution: Answered Votes: 0
Labels: LOGIC, Measure
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Attachments: PNG File CMS178v4 Facility Location.PNG    
Impact: My team wants to create at least one patient for every population of every measure. This is preventing us from doing that.

 Description   

As the question states, I'm wondering if it is possible to make a field value have a different duration than the field that it is a part of. The CMS178v4 denominator logic requires

"Occurrence A of Procedure, Performed: Indwelling urinary catheter" during "Occurrence A of Encounter, Performed: Encounter Inpatient
AND
"Occurrence A of Procedure, Performed: Indwelling urinary catheter" ends after end of "Occurrence A of Encounter, Performed: Encounter Inpatient (facility location: 'ICU Locations')"

Since both of these are dealing with Occurrence A of Encounter, Performed: Encounter Inpatient, the only way I can think to satisfy both is if the time in the ICU is less than the entire Encounter.

I've attached a screenshot of what I thought would work, but I had no luck.



 Comments   
Comment by Lizzie Charbonneau [ 10/16/15 ]

It looks like the measure author’s intent was to compute the catheter indwelling to occur within the patient encounter as a whole, but end after the patient’s time in either the ICU or PACU. From the measure metadata, it has:

By convention, discharge date post "Encounter inpatient" is used to describe the hospital discharge date. Where logic needs to indicate discharge (or transfer) from one inpatient location to another, the logic uses "Transfer From" or "Transfer To" as the QDS data type.

In this case, we would expect the the logic comparing the catheter indwelling time with the patient’s time in the ICU or PACU to reference "Transfer To" or "Transfer From". However, after reviewing the measure logic, this does not appear to be the case.

The time comparison measure logic for both

Occurrence A of Procedure, Performed: Indwelling urinary catheter" during "Occurrence A of Encounter, Performed: Encounter Inpatient

and

Occurrence A of Procedure, Performed: Indwelling urinary catheter" ends after end of "Occurrence A of Encounter, Performed: Encounter Inpatient (facility location: 'ICU Locations')

both appear to be against the time of Encounter, Performed: Encounter Inpatient and not any transfer times within that criteria. As a result, it would be impossible for a patient to compute to true for both statements.

It appears that Bonnie is behaving properly given the measure and that the measure logic does not represent the author’s intent.

Comment by Peter Krautscheid (Inactive) [ 06/29/15 ]

Thanks, we'll take a look at your test case, the Bonnie code, and the spec to determine if Bonnie is working as expected.

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